Tag: Virginia Tech

  • Cho’s ticket to the bughouse

    Cho Seung-Hui’s Commitment Papers:

    For those of you who are into every minute detail no matter how insignificant it may be, Slate now has the commitment papers of Cho Seung-Hui.

    I didn’t find the papers themselves very interesting but rather what was in the article that accompanied it.

    The patient exercised his right to counsel by court-appointed attorney Terry W. Teel (see Page 2), and his case was considered and decided by Special Justice and Guardian Ad Litem Paul M. Barnett. Justice Barnett found that although Cho presented “an imminent danger to himself as a result of mental illness,” there were suitable “alternatives to involuntary hospitalization” available. Cho was ordered instead to get outpatient treatments (see Page 5). No record has been found to confirm whether Cho, who killed 32 people and himself on April 16, ever sought or received the court-ordered treatment.

    Just a few quick questions here. If Cho presented an imminent danger to himself why was he not committed? Doesn’t imminent mean inevitable and immediate? Since the court ordered him to attend outpatient treatments was the court supposed to follow up to make sure he was attending? Isn’t that what court-ordered means?

  • Cho not a victim

    Seung-Hui is not a victim:

    This is an editorial from the Tuft’s University student paper in response to this editorial that claims that Virginia Tech mass murderer Cho Seung-Hui was a “victim”.

    The truth is society is not perfect and it never will be. Who among us has not felt isolated from his or her peers at some point in life? Yet we do not respond with violent rage. This is not how a human being is supposed to act. The individual decision to murder cannot be excused as a result from reality not always being a happy, jolly place. What happened at Virginia Tech was an act of monstrous insanity.

    The only person who can be blamed for Cho Seung-Hui’s violent outburst is Seung-Hui. This is a time to remember the lives of 32 people whose lives were taken away far too soon. The 33rd “victim,” which is what Gunturi refers to Seung-Hui as, should be remembered as the one who took the others’ lives.

    Finally, she argues, “Let us not allow Cho’s death to be in vain.” But very idea that we can take anything positive from this man’s life on Earth is ludicrous. He was a horrible person and the world is a better place without him.

    Amen brother. It’s just such a waste that the loser had to take 32 innocent victims with him.

  • Cho and the escort

    ‘He was Creeping me Out’:

    How’s this for pathetic? According to the article, Cho Seung-Hui couldn’t even get laid by a hooker…

    Chastity Frye says she spent an hour, all alone, with Virginia Tech killer Cho Seung-Hui last month.

    Frye said “He was so quiet, I really couldn’t get much from him, he was so distant, he really didn’t talk a lot. It seemed like he wasn’t all there.”

    Frye works for an escort service. She says, Cho hired her, and the two met at a Valley View motel.

    She says “I danced for a little while and I thought we were done because he got up and went to the restroom and began washing. And I said, ‘well, do you want me to go? I’m going to go ahead and go’. And he’s like, ‘I paid for the full hour, you’ve only been here for 15 minutes,’ and then he came back in the room. And I started dancing and that’s when he you know, touched me and tried to get on me and that’s when I pushed him away.”

    When Chastity Frye saw the news about Cho last week, she thought she recognized him. Then, she says, FBI agents questioned her this weekend. Frye says they tracked her down through Cho’s credit card receipt.

    Frye said “I don’t know what to think. I’m just very grateful that nothing happened then. Sometimes I wonder if I could have said something or done something differently or maybe talk to him a little bit more [but] you know, get him to open up? Right. But I wasn’t thinking about that at the time. I was thinking, he was creeping me out, I was thinking about getting out of there.”

    My dad had a saying for guys like Cho. He would say “That guy couldn’t get laid in a whore house with a stack of twenties.” And here I thought that was just an expression.

    Thanks to BelchSpeak for the link.

  • Cho’s stone stolen

    Cho’s stone gone from memorial:

    An almost 5lb granite rock that bared the name of the Virginia Tech killer was removed from the makeshift memorial that contained 33 blocks that had the names of all who died at Virginia Tech. It disappeared before classes resumed on Monday.

    Hopefully, some drunk college students are doing unspeakable things to it. If they are I’d like to buy them a beer.

  • Yeah…that’s the ticket

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    Those who knew gunman return to classes:

    Not only was Cho Seung-Hui an anti-social, selfish, cowardly, loser he was also delusional, or a pathological liar.

    Koch remembers taking Cho out to some parties at the start of the fall semester in 2005. He introduced Cho to friends, but the sullen roommate didn’t say much. At one party, Cho did get tipsy enough that he opened up and began talking about his virtual love life.

    He said he had an imaginary girlfriend named Jelly, and that she was “a supermodel that lived in space.” Jelly had a nickname for Cho — Spanky.

    Once, Koch knocked on Cho’s door looking for his roommate, John. The door was locked, and Seung wouldn’t open it up.

    “I’m in here with my girlfriend and we’re making out,” he said.

    “Who says that kind of stuff?” the junior from Richmond asked.

    A couple months later during Thanksgiving break, Koch’s phone rang. It was Cho.

    “I didn’t know why he called, and I was like ‘What’s up.’ He goes, ‘I’m vacationing with Vladimir Putin. I was like, ‘Really? I think he lives in Russia.’ He’s like, ‘Yeah, we’re in North Carolina.’ I’m like, ‘I’m pretty sure that’s not possible Seung.”‘

    I think we all know a guy like this. Someone who tries too hard and ends up pushing people further away from him.

    Cho didn’t hate the so-called rich kids. He wanted to be one so bad it hurt. And when they didn’t accept him his stalker mentality kicked in. If they won’t be friends with me they won’t be friends with anyone.

    Not everyone has to accept you as a friend. That’s the way the real world works.

  • Cho: The Unoriginal Loser

    SICK HOMAGES FROM A STUDENT OF PSYCHOS:

    I love the New York Post when it comes to crime coverage. They pull no punches. This article is about how Cho Seung-Hui didn’t have an original idea in his head.

    Virginia Tech killer Cho Seung-Hui plagiarized other school-shooting psychos in a twisted show of one-upmanship.

    He used the Internet to research and learn from infamous school killers, including Columbine HS’s Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, Duane Morrison of Bailey, Colo., and Kimveer Gill of Montreal, experts said.

    In photos he sent to NBC News, Cho is seen wearing a black baseball cap backward, just as Harris wore in published images.

    In others, Cho strikes poses disturbingly similar to those of Gill – who posted photos of himself online before his rampage last September at Montreal’s Dawson College that killed one student and injured a dozen.

    The only thing he outdid his scumbag heroes on was his level of cowardice.

  • Dave Cullen on Cho

    Was Cho Seung-Hui really like the Columbine killers?:

    Dave Cullen, who wrote the definitive article about Columbine, is back. This time he’s writing about the Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui and analyzing the comparison between Cho and the Columbine killers. The article does not disappoint.

    I’m not even going to post any quotes of the article because it’s way too good for that. The article must be read in its entirety.

  • Victim’s family wants story to be heard

    Virginia Tech victim’s loved ones fight to tell his story:

    The friends and family of Virginia Tech student and victim of the tragedy Jeremy Herbstritt want his story to be heard. So copyright laws be damned I’m posting the whole article to help his story be known.

    (CNN) — Schoolmates and relatives painted a portrait of Virginia Tech victim Jeremy Herbstritt as a friendly, talkative and passionate man, in stark contrast to his killer Cho Seung-Hui, the deeply troubled and quiet loner.

    Their very different lives collided Monday when Cho targeted a classroom building where Jeremy and so many others were following their dreams. Cho shot and killed Herbstritt, police said, along with at least 29 others before taking his own life.

    Images of the armed Cho, wearing black gloves and dressed in a khaki vest have been burned on the public consciousness, as has his screed of hateful words targeting the wealthy and privileged. (Watch Jeremy’s parents and a friend remember how “he had a good heart” Video)

    Jeremy’s loved ones are fighting to replace those images with thoughts of their son and other victims of the massacre, by publicly celebrating his legacy.

    “The rest of our life is going to be to celebrate his life, to say what he did good,” said Jeremy’s father, Mike, while fighting back tears. “Jeremy was a good boy, a good man, and we’re going to love him forever.” (Read a brief profile of Jeremy)

    Cho’s hateful video message he sent to NBC on the day of the killing targeted people who had “everything” they wanted.

    Jeremy’s schoolmates offered a very different message of hope from their fallen colleague.

    “That message is, ‘be passionate, and be passionate about something,’” said Ken Stanton, a friend who lived in the same building as Jeremy. “We may have lost him, but I’ll tell you what, his spirit is certainly with us.”

    Another schoolmate, Gaurav Bansal, said Jeremy “always had uplifting things to say.”

    They both appeared disgusted by Cho’s video they’d seen plastered across the news media. (Watch disturbing video of the gunman talking about his motives Video)

    “It’s a really sensitive topic, and I’d really rather not get into it,” said Stanton. “We want to talk about Jeremy.” (Read more about how some have been disgusted by Cho’s video)

    Friends said the 27-year-old civil engineering graduate student never had a bad thing to say about anyone.

    But he did have many words to say. Friends and parents described him as talkative. “Jeremy had a lot of energy,” said his mother Peggy Herbstritt.

    “From the time he was born and even through graduate school, I don’t think he slept more than a couple of hours a day. He loved life.”

    His father said Jeremy was a hiker and a biker and ran in marathons. He worked as a teaching assistant while pursuing his interest in helping the environment.

    Students looked forward to class when they knew Jeremy would be there to teach, his father said.

    Jeremy also worked in a program to search for mosquitoes carrying the dangerous West Nile Virus.

    “If anybody ever asked Jeremy for some help,” said his father, “Jeremy was there to help them.”

    So much potential good in the world was prematurely snuffed out by the ultimate cowardly act.

  • Jack Thompson takes on Bill Gates

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    According to Counter-Strike Nation, the Washington Post had the following paragraph in this article but subsequently retracted it about the Virginia Tech shooter…

    Several Korean youths who knew Cho Seung Hui from his high school days said he was a fan of violent video games, particularly Counterstrike[sic], a hugely popular online game, in which players join terrorism or counterterrorism[sic] groups and try to shoot each other using all types of guns.

    Now since a video game site found this before the Post pulled it you know the evil one has seen this. Lo and behold he’s sent a letter to Bill Gates, head cheese of Microsoft who don’t even make Counter-Strike…

    April 18, 2007

    Bill Gates

    Microsoft

    1 Microsoft Way
    Redmond, WA 98052 Via Fax and e-mail

    Dear Mr. Gates:

    On Monday, April 16, at 3:10 pm, I was a guest, as I often have been in the past, on the Fox News Channel. News anchor Bill Hemmer asked me to profile the Virginia Tech rampage killer. I did so, noting that until that day the worst school massacre in world history was at the hands of Robert Steinhaeuser, who literally trained on the Microsoft on-line, hyper-violent shooter game, Counterstrike. I mentioned your company’s game by name. I explained that the rehearsal for such a massacre is key to being able to pull it off, as efficiently as Cho, whose name we didn’t even know at the time. Cho and Steinhaeuser were able to do what they did the first time because it was not the first time. This is why the military uses this same virtual reality simulation to train soldiers to want to kill and how to kill calmly, as the witnesses of Cho said he did.

    Sure enough, last night I was doing a west coast radio interview when the host said to me, “Mr. Thompson, you are right. The Washington Post is reporting right now the following:

    ‘Several Korean youths who knew Cho Seung Hui from his high school days said he was a fan of violent video games, particularly Counterstrike, a hugely popular online game published by Microsoft, in which players join terrorism or counterterrorism groups and try to shoot each other using all types of guns.’

    I thus went back on the Fox News Channel, and Bill Hemmer and I explained not only that I was right about your game figuring in the Virginia Tech massacre but also that the Washington Post excised the above excerpt from the story this morning. That is yet another story. The bad news for the Post however is that you can still get the excised excerpt at http://www.washingtonpost.com/…AR2007041700563_3.html?hpid=topnews. Thus, the cat is out of the bag, and his paw prints are still on the bag. Is this a great Internet, or what?

    As you know, I similalry [sic] went on NBC’s Today Show with the DC Beltway Sniper still unidentified and at-large a few years ago and told Matt Lauer and the nation that the triggerman would most likely be a teen video gamer trained on a sniper video game. The tarot card was a clue, but there were other clues. I was right, as Malvo trained on your Microsoft game, Halo. NBC reported that three months later, and it was part of the criminal trial of Malvo.

    Mr. Gates, your company is potentially legally liable the harm done at Virginia Tech. Your game, a killing simulator, according to the news that used to be in the Post, trained him to enjoy killing and how to kill. You knew five years ago that your on-line game, Counterstrike, so clearly figured in the massacre by a student in Erfurt that the event and the game impacted the race for Chancellor in Germany at the time!

    Yet, here you are, five years after “Erfurt,” still marketing Counterstrike. having done nothing to disable the server(s) for this mass murder simulator, and it looks like “Virginia Tech” is a consequence. There’s more going on in the world than Vista. Just ask the bereaved Virginia Tech families.

    Mr. Gates, pull the plug on Counterstrike today, or do we need more dead to convince you? “Virginia Tech” was the 9-11 of school shootings, and it appears Microsoft is in the middle of it, in more ways than one.

    Regards, Jack Thompson

    Wow, he changed it up this time. He used killing simulator instead of murder simulator. But as usual Mr. Thompson is off his rocker. I’m not going to go into the thousand ways that he’s wrong. I would hope that our readers are smart enough to figure that out for themselves. I just wanted to display this to show why I consider Jack Thompson the reigning King of All Assclowns.

  • Could Columbine records have prevented Va. Tech?

    Truth about Columbine may have helped prevent Va. rampage, Rohrbough says:

    If you’ve been following Columbine as long as I have you’re familiar with the name Brian Rohrbough. He lost his son Daniel at Columbine. He’s been very outspoken about how he thinks the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Department handled Columbine. Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes I don’t. This time I agree with him 100%.

    The father of one of the victims of the Columbine tragedy said he isn’t surprised that the Virginia Tech gunman refers to the shooters responsible for his son’s death as “martyrs.”

    “Because Jefferson County lied so much about what happened in Columbine, they raised the interest in these guys,” Brian Rohrbough said Wednesday. He lost his son Daniel Rohrbough at Columbine. “When (officials) refused to release the basement videos, they created a cult following for these two guys.”

    Rohrbough has long sought the release of videos – the so-called basement tapes – and other documents created by Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris long before they went on their rampage at Columbine.

    “If the videos were released, then parents, schools, law enforcement and counselors would have a benchmark to look for potential murderers, and the odds of stopping this before it happens would increase dramatically,” Rohrbough said.

    “The basement tapes and the documents give a very clear picture on how to identify these guys. There is so much information that would help identify these serious threats.”

    He said that until the truth about Columbine is told, school shootings will continue to occur.

    “When you withhold the truth and you create mystery, imaginations and conspiracy theories run wild,” he said.

    Are you paying attention Judge Babcock?