Marvin Osantowski, the father of would be school shooter Andrew Osantowski, was sentenced to 18 months probation after pleading guilty to receiving a stolen golf cart from his son…
In exchange, prosecutors dropped charges that Marvin Osantowski helped his son hide a cache of weapons, including an AK-47, bomb-making devices and hundreds of rounds of ammunition in the family home in Clinton Township.
Marvin Osantowski, a DaimlerChrysler employee with disabilities, said he accepted the plea deal to spare his family a trial on the weapons charges.
“To keep Andrew out of the news, I chose this route,” Osantowski said. “Am I happy it took so long? No.”
Biernat also modified Marvin Osantowksi’s probation terms to allow him to visit his son in the Macomb Correctional Facility in Lenox Township.
Yesterday I told you about what was believed to be Andrew Osantowski’s MySpace account. Well, I received word today from someone on decent authority that the site is a fake. I guess, as they at Snopes, we’ll classify this one “Undetermined”.
A few months ago, I wondered if Andrew Osantowski had internet access in prison, since his Yahoo profile had changed since he was sentenced. I received an e-mail today from someone in the know who said that he does not have net access in prison, but he has someone on the outside maintaining his internet presence. I was also sent a link to Osantowski’s MySpace account. Of course, I’m not going to link it but here’s a screenshot…
What smacks you in the face first? Why the swastika claiming white power, of course. And like most MySpace sites, the background makes it totally unreadable but that’s ok, I’ll translate…
Andrew’s Interests General Neo-Naziism, spray painting swastikas, fertilizer bombs Books The Threat of the Hitler Cult, Adolf Hitler, The Neo-Nazis This profile was edited with Thomas’ myspace editor™ V2.5 Heroes Adolf Hitler, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold
And if that wasn’t enough…
Andrew’s Blurbs
About me: i’m 18 and am pretty anti social, i am very interested in Hitler and the Nazi’s. a while back i got in some major trouble but im back now and im ready to get my life back on track. if you want im me sometime my sn is nazibotsadistic
Who I’d like to meet: McGinty’s!
What’s scary is that he has 100 MySpace friends. Do the MySpace drones just add anyone indiscriminately?
What’s even scarier is that when he says he wants to meet the McGinty’s he means Celia McGinty, the Idaho teenage girl who turned him in, and Celia’s father, Sgt. George McGinty, who is a policeman in Washington who first alerted authorities to Osantowski’s plot to shoot up his school. Does that sound like a thinly veiled threat to anyone else?
For someone who is still obsessed with Nazism and the scumbags Harris and Klebold it doesn’t sound like someone who said this at his sentencing…
“I am truly sorry for the things I have done. My family never raised me like this.”
“Whichever path leads to normalcy and freedom is the one I want to take,”
Just think, this unrepentant ball of hate will be out of jail when he’s 22.
Andrew Osantowski’s father, Marvin Osantowski, pleaded guilty to one count of receiving and concealing stolen property worth $1,000 to $20,000. This was in reference to a golf cart that Andrew Osantowski stole.
What gets me is that even though he won’t likely face any jail time he’s looking at a max of 5 years. Meanwhile, his son who was stockpiling weapons to shoot up his school only got 4 1/2 years.
If by some bizarre chance Osantowski the elder gets sentenced to more time than his son, then there is something seriously screwed up in the state of Michigan.
And here is his Yahoo Profile where he still is linked to my site. It looks like he still has net access because that picture has changed. It used to be this picture…
Anybody else recognize the shirt he’s wearing? That’s right, it’s a t-shirt from the now-defunct white supremacist record label Panzerfaust Records.
And if he still does have net access, which it appears he does, and he still has links to white supremacist sites and the like, then it seems like he hasn’t learned his lesson.
Andrew Osantowski was sentenced today to a minimum of 4 1/2 years in prison with 10 months time served.
Osantowski, who turned 18 last month, cried as the judge spoke. Before being sentenced he apologized, reading from crumpled handwritten yellow legal pages.
“I look back and realize how lost I was,” he told the court. “I am truly sorry for the things I have done. My family never raised me like this.”
“Whichever path leads to normalcy and freedom is the one I want to take,” he said.
I hope he’s sincere, but you’ll have to forgive me if I’m a little skeptical.
According to the article, Glenn R. Stutzky is a clinical instructor at Michigan State University’s School of Social Work. The law he is referring to is the law that convicted would be school shooter Andrew Osantowski. He has some issues with Michigan’s terror law…
The terrorism statute was designed to assist law enforcement in dealing with adults who threaten to commit acts of terrorism and not for use against school-aged children.
So what you’re saying is that school-aged children, in this case, 17-years-old, are not capable of acts of terrorism? I think there are some people in Colorado and Minnesota who probably disagree with you.
Here is the problem: The terrorism law does not distinguish between a student “making” a threat and actually “posing” a threat.
Did Andrew Osantowski really “pose” a threat?
That may not be the best question; a better one might be: “Where was he along the continuum between just blowing off steam and actually taking action?”
Andrew Osantowski did, in fact, pose a threat. Or was having guns, ammo, and bomb-making instructions just blowing off steam?
Mr. Stutzky also pushes some well-meaning but probably doesn’t apply in real life program…
Oakland Schools has developed “Guidelines for Assessing Threatening Dangerous Behaviors in Schools”, a systematic and comprehensive process to assess threats made by students and a means to address dangerous behaviors through an integrated intervention plan.
The intervention begins immediately and ultimately involves the student, family, school, and community. Every threat is taken serious and initiates a process that results in a determination of the level of concern that exists – strong, moderate, or minimal and has a clear threshold of when to contact and involve the police.
Law enforcement benefits from GATDBS by not having to immediately come out to a school every time a threat is spoken, e-mailed, or written on a bathroom wall.
Emphasis mine.
That’s some good thinkin’ there, Glenn. If the police didn’t take every threat seriously, how many shootings do you think would have happened by now, including the one involving Andrew Osantowski? How many people do you think Andrew Osantowski would have killed if his threat was not taken seriously? Do you want that kind of blood on your hands? You probably wouldn’t care. You’d just blame it on something else. Like the oppressive legal system or some such other nonsense. And the fact that you consider yourself an educator is frightening.
(Log in info) Andrew Osantowski’s defense attorney, Brian Legghio, continues to crack me up…
Defense attorney Brian Legghio said he plans to file an appeal after the sentencing arguing, among other things, the cache of weapons discovered in Osantowski’s home should have not been admissible as evidence. Prosecutors did not have to prove Osantowski had the capability or the intent to carry out a threat, he said, and called that evidence prejudicial.
“When you peel that away, all you’re left with is a text message,” said Legghio, who doubted the message alone would have been enough to get a conviction.
He added that he would “bet my bar card” that the conviction would be overturned on appeal.
I would love to take that bet. Osantowski pleaded guilty to the stolen weapons charge, so why shouldn’t it have been presented as evidence? Why is it prejudicial if it’s fact?
What is also very interesting is this quote from Chippewa Valley Superintendent Mark Deldin…
“There probably would have been some fear in our community if he had gone back home, in our neighborhoods,” Deldin said. “But I think the biggest message that this verdict sends today goes beyond Chippewa Valley Schools. It’s a resounding message that threats of violence and terrorism in our schools will not be tolerated.”
Emphasis mine.
That’s a great point. This case should have gotten more media attention than it did. This case should serve as a warning to those who would entertain the thought of attacking their school that this is their fate. I hope the sentencing phase drives home that point as well.
A jury found Andrew Osantowski guilty of threatening an act of terrorism and using a computer to threaten terrorism. Each charge is punishable by up to 20 years in prison. Sentencing is set to take place on July 11.
This is another article about the Andrew Osantowski trial. It doesn’t provide much more information than already given, but a couple of the paragraphs regarding Andrew Osantowski’s attorney, Brian Legghio, made my jaw drop…
Legghio, however, voiced some doubt about the authenticity or completeness of McGinty’s record of the chats as submitted to her father; he also likened himself to fictional Atticus Finch for defending a marginal and unpopular client and compared his client to Japanese Americans during World War II or blacks in the old South.
Legghio said the teen was misguided or a geek, who probably needs therapy. He said Osantowski did not show any intent to coerce civilians or the government.
“That’s the most important element,” Legghio told the jury in closings. “Otherwise, by God you can just forget your free speech, because you aren’t going to have any left.”
Emphasis mine.
Could this guy be any more arrogant? And here I thought doctors were the only ones with God complexes. I guess criminal defense attorneys do too.
