Category: School Violence

  • 8/1/04: From the Mail Sack

    8/1/04: From the Mail Sack

    It’s Sunday, and we have plenty of love to go around.

    First, from my entry on the Eric Harris worship site

    Some of you talk about bullying like you understand it. Klebold and Harris killed themselves, that’s what real bullying does to you. A lot of people who get bullied to far kill themselves, the only difference with Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris is that they took some of the fuckers with them. And as for the ‘innocents’, to victims of bullying the crowd that laugh along with the bullies are just as bad as the bully themselves. Trenchcoat you are just another shithead who doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about. Me I’d treat bullies the way Hitler treated the Jews, but a lot crueller, and I‘d probably sell the remains back to the schools as food. And surely its the parents that allow their kids to grow up as bullies that should be forbidden from breeding.

    Klebold and Harris are/were almost hero’s.

    :twisted:Speaking as someone who has been bullied, the life of a bully is worth less than a single piece of my sh*t, after I‘ve flushed it, and the only reason I‘m not hacking them to pieces is that I don’t want to annoy the police or go to prison or anything! And as someone who knows Marilyn Manson’s history I know he must have felt the same thing even if he didn’t choose to say so.

    – The soul of goth

    Comment by Robert Lucien — Wednesday Jul 28, 2004 @ 2:23 am

    Tell me O wise one what I don’t understand about bullying. I was bullied my entire time in school. But guess what, Sparky? I got over it. Harris and Klebold were/are not almost heroes. They would have been heroes if they had done something rational and legal to combat bullying. Instead, they’re just two pathetic cowards burning in hell who are worshiped by someone who is in obvious need of psychiatric help and whose parents obviously don’t care enough about their child’s life.

    From the same mutant responding to this comment from the same entry

    Comment to suzy only. I’d treat you like you treat me. I’d cut your stupid breasts off with a Stanley knife, then I’d slowly skin you alive, and see how much noise I could get out of you. I won’t worry about causing you pain , your pain will be my pleasure.

    Every time you shout the word faggot at someone on the street I want you to think about me or someone else slicing those breasts off, in fact I think I’ll find a gay friend who’s into butchery and have an intestine fight with him. I want you to have nightmares about gays playing sex games with your insides.

    Yours with love Robert

    Comment by Robert Lucien — Wednesday Jul 28, 2004 @ 3:34 am

    This is your rational and sane person that think Klebold and Harris were heroes. You have free medicine over there in the UK. How about taking advantage of it before you hurt yourself.

    Of course, we have one from the Eric Harris Journal

    I think that what Eric and Dylan did wasn’t cruel at all.

    Have you seen Elephant? Can’t you feel what they could’ve felt?

    And if they were so cruel, how come they hated people who hurt animals?

    And did you read all the journals? Couldn’t you see how genius Eric and Dylan were? Sometimes everybody feels like killing…

    20

    april

    2008

    we-will-follow

    Comment by RDK-MEH — Wednesday Jul 28, 2004 @ 11:51 am

    What is with a lot of the mutants using initials? Anyway, I reported this to the mutant’s ISP in the Netherlands, Now whether or not those whoring stoners did anything about it is another story. Yes, I have seen Elephant and it bored the crap out of me. I don’t care if they hated people who hurt animals. They killed 13 unarmed random innocent people. Harris and Klebold were not geniuses. One was a psychopath and the other was his lackey. And they were both cowards.

    From the same mutant on my entry about Clinton speaking at Columbine

    you’re a scumbag yourself motherfucker

    :] it’s that… I’ll suprise yah later for what you just said

    you retarted bitch … 🙂

    Comment by RDK-MEH — Wednesday Jul 28, 2004 @ 12:09 pm

    Typical mutant tactic. Threatening through anonymous channels. Come to think of it, isn’t that a form of bullying? Isn’t that what your “heroes” hated? So you’re bullying me, just like your “heroes” were bullied. Hypocrisy can be so rewarding sometimes.

    Same mutant, this time he left the same comment not only on my guestbook but also at my entry on the Eric Harris journal

    Quote:

    Trench says The lack of intelligence that emits from these mutants is mind boggling.

    So you think it’s pretty “cool” to talk shit like this, I see you’re a retarted old bitchin’ man without a social life and talking fucking stuff you can’t ever understand.

    Talking about intelligence; can’t see any coming from you. Won’t even ask how low your IQ is, if you would have a intelligent mind you wouldn’t even start a site like this one. And no not because it fucking says shit like how cruel Eric and Dylan were, but because intelligent people don’t do sites like this. They would start a educational site. To show us your knowledge. This is bullshit man.

    Even my four year old little sister gets bored by shit like this, and knowing a 35 year old guy wrote it she wouldn’t stop laughin’. You’re a male-bitch being ignored by the world cause no one cares about your opinion. Your wife sleeps with your best friend and your boss just fired you, so you came home while fucking yourself starting a site like this…. You make me puke. You make feel pity for you…

    YOU

    ARE

    OLD

    So you couldn’t understand how Eric and Dylan felt, at the time they did the Columbine thing you were having your midlife-crisis, and they were having teenage-problems. If you hate them so much why have you started a site about them anyway, guess you are pretty interested. Wasn’t smart to put your ass information (e-mail address and marital status) on the internet cause you bet your ass I’ll leave you a little suprise.

    You ugly assfuck…

    Comment by rebel — Wednesday Jul 28, 2004 @ 12:30 pm

    Rebel, huh? How original. Youth really is wasted on the young, isn’t it? There are these things that come with age, called experience and wisdom. Both of which you are obviously severely lacking. My favorite part of this comment is where the mutant says, “intelligent people don’t do sites like this. They would start a educational site.’ A educational site? I don’t know. A lot of people tend to think my site is AN educational one. They get taught that murderer worshiping mutants like you actually exist.

    And of course, they close it out with more vague and anonymous threats. Yeah, I’ll be losing sleep over that. You shouldn’t pity me. I’ve got a pretty nice life. I’ve got a family who cares about me. Sounds like to me that you have neither of those. It must really suck to be you.

  • 7/25/04: From The Mail Sack

    7/25/04: From The Mail Sack

    Only one piece of hate mail this week. I must be slipping. Be forewarned, there is some rough language ahead…

    From: toby

    Location: a land far far away(thank fuckin god

    eric and dylan wer victims too. im not in anyway defending what they did because I BELIEVE it was wrong, at the same time i can relate to it all. you cant honestly tell me you dont regret not killing your classmates. so all you fucks badmouthing them remember RESPECT THE DEAD!! ALL OF THE DEAD!!!! that includes those who may not be as worthy of our sympathy. so wake up and smeel your governments cum around your mouth, and wipe it of bitch coz you are all low and just as worthless as you believe eric and dylan.ignor the BULLSHIT propaganda you see on the tv and hear on the radio if you in the states you in a land of lies and hypocrisy if you believe what they tell you then you are not worth the ground you walk on. SEE YOU IN HELL. toby

    As usual, the lack of intelligence of these mutants astonishes me. What I need to do is put some kind of like FAQ that says that Harris and Klebold were not victims and that I have yet to see any proof of them being harassed.

    I mean if they were harassed by a particular group of people or an individual, don’t you think we would have heard of them by now. Don’t you think people would be blaming them for causing them to snap? Don’t you think people would be like, “You’re the reason they killed 13 people.”?

    Instead, the mutants blame it on the ever-vague “jocks” label. I can honestly tell you that I don’t regret not killing my classmates because it was almost 20 years ago, and I’ve moved on. I got out of that state while many of them are still living in the same place they were in high school. And for someone who says that America is so bad and supposedly speaks the queen’s English, your vocabulary just proves how ignorant and misguided you are.

  • Columbine Lawsuit Appeal

    Columbine Lawsuit Appeal

    Appeal of Columbine settlement rejected:

    Seems like we have some news tonight after all. The 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that Michael and Vonda Shoels, parents of Isaiah Shoels who was killed at Columbine, cannot back out of a settlement with the parents of our favorite rotting in hell killer scumbags Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.

    The Shoelses say that the family accepted the settlement because of a mistake made at their lawyer’s office. Which may be entirely true.

    However, what gets me is that between the 13 families and others, the settlement is only $1.6 million. I know you could never put a price on losing a family member, but $1.6M between dozens of people seems like an insult to me.

    Another term of the settlement was that the families would drop lawsuits against the Harrises and Klebolds for letting their mutant offspring stockpile weapons. It sounds like the families may not have been well represented. And speaking of shady lawyering check out this quote from the Klebolds’ lawyer…

    “We hope this means the end of Columbine lawsuits and that the healing in the community continues,” said Frank Patterson, attorney for the Klebolds.

    Translation: Please stop suing my clients because if they don’t have any money I don’t get paid. Spare me. As we’ve all heard, the Klebolds don’t think they did anything wrong and offer no apologies. They don’t want the community to heal. They just want the community off their backs because they feel like they’ve done nothing wrong. I guess you can see where their kid got his fucked up priorities.

  • Clinton to speak for Columbine

    Clinton to speak for Columbine

    Clinton to Speak to Columbine Families:

    As much as I gave the guy grief while he was in office for being an ineffectual president, I have to admire him for doing this. He is waiving his normal $100,000 speaking fee in order to speak at a fund-raiser for the Columbine Memorial. Hopefully, this will finally help get it built.

  • 80 Years

    80 Years

    Man Who Planned ‘Columbine’ Type Attack Gets 80 Years:

    For once, California does something right. After sentencing a man who planned a 2001 attack on his community college to seven years in prison, he was re-sentenced today after appeals to 80 years in prison. This is what you get for being a mutant…

    Farris said police searching DeGuzman’s home found massive amounts of writings and a 19-minute audiotape detailing his plot to kill as many people as possible at the college in emulation of his heroes, Columbine High School shooters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.

    Apparently, he was another coward, just like his “heroes”.

    This is actually the first time I’ve heard of this, but I found this article with some interesting quotes.

    They found DeGuzman’s bed room stacked from top to bottom with sophisticated handmade bombs, some of which were booby-trapped with detonators that would go off if someone handled them, Miceli said.

    Police also found a map of De Anza College, marked with locations where bombs would be placed, and a tape recording that investigators believe DeGuzman made Monday outlining his plot, Miceli said.

    DeGuzman’s voice is heard on the tape apologizing to the press, his family and friends for what he was about to do, Miceli said.

    Miceli said DeGuzman had specific targets in mind, but he declined to elaborate on the intended victims. And although there was no suicide note, detectives said they believed DeGuzman had planned to die during the bloody attack.

    Investigators seized two rifles, a sawed-off rifle and a sawed-off shotgun from the house.

    Again, this was while he was living at his parents’ house. Granted, he was 19 at the time of his arrest, but once again, if the parents just did some checking their son may not be spending the rest of his life in jail. Whatever happened to “you live under my roof, you live under my rules”? Makes you wonder what the parents were busy doing.

    Ultimately, though, it is Al DeGuzman’s responsibility. Unlike his “heroes”, he didn’t escape justice and now has the next 80 years to think about it. Too harsh of a sentence, you say? I say it’s perfect. Let it be a warning to all other would-be Harris and Klebolds out there. This is what you really have to look forward to.

  • 6/13/04: From The Mail Sack

    6/13/04: From The Mail Sack

    Has it been that long since I last did the mail sack? Well, I’ve got plenty to make up for it.

    From my entry on the Columbine Death Photos

    Eric and Dylan were two people, the same as everyone else. Yes, there is school violence everywhere, but they had the balls to take the next step and make people pay for the pain and torture that was caused. I know that I did not know either of them personally, but I believe I know how they felt. Every day there is someone being broken down by people who show no shame in hurting others. I have a feeling that some day those kids are going to get revenge. That’s just how life is. What comes around, goes around. You hurt, and get hurt. Get over it. Anyone who doesn’t see that is just fucking dense. Thank you and have a nice day. Please respond, I’d love to read what you have to say!

    Comment by Sammi — Wednesday Jun 2, 2004 @ 8:53 am

    Here was my response…

    Ok, you asked for it. It doesn’t take balls to shoot and kill 13 unarmed people. The whole theory about them being harassed by jocks has not been proven. Tell me their names if they were harassed by jocks. You can’t because it didn’t happen. Harris was a psychopath, pure and simple. High school is a blip of your entire existence. Being harassed is no reason to shoot anyone. A lot of us including me were harassed in school, but we didn’t shoot anyone. You need serious help.

    Comment by Trench — Wednesday Jun 2, 2004 @ 9:04 am

    What gets me is that this came from a public school district in Maryland. I e-mailed them to let them know what one of their students was up to. I wonder if they did anything about it.

    Then there’s this one from my entry about another would-be shooter being sentenced. The comment came from the same Maryland school district…

    I think that people like this kik ass… espicially Eric Harris!!!! Hes my hero. if there is one person in the world that i could meet if i had the opportunity, he would be it. i just wish i had the chance to or at least went to school with him at that time. u know its pretty sad when your hero, the one person u would look up to is dead! well i guess im done for now but this Matthew guy doesnt seem to bad either

    Comment by Jerika — Thursday Jun 3, 2004 @ 12:26 pm

    No, what’s really sad “Jerika”…if that’s your real name, then I feel sorry for you…is that your “hero” is a psychopathic coward who killed 13 unarmed, random people. I seriously hope your school comes down on you like a ton of bricks. It seems to be the thing to do lately. Spellcheck wouldn’t kill you, either.

    And, surprise surprise, one from my entry on the Eric Harris Journal

    Those two people you are calling ’scum bags’ were actually part of the human race. What they did may have been wrong but everyone does wrong and it was wrong that people bullied Eric and Dylan…KLEBOLD spell it right. The parents were not to blame for what happened…it was the boys choice and they were old enough to make the decission themselves. Most parents do not feel the need to search their childs room for guns and pipe bombs. Its not a crime that they gave trust to their son, (Eric) it’s just a crime that people like you don’t understand that they were hurt to. Not only by the death of their son, but for the damage that they caused to other families. The parents of Dylan and Eric cannot be blamed for this crime. No one knew what was going on other than them. warning signs are only obviouse once it has happened and that just happenes to be the case. I no how it feels to be bullied by people that think their so much greater than you. I also know how it feels to want to show them all the pain youve kept inside for so long. Reb and voDKa RIP

    Comment by Jema Vile — Wednesday Jun 9, 2004 @ 8:27 am

    Ok, pay attention, people. I’m going to go through this again. There is no proof they were bullied. Even if they were, it’s still no excuse. And while it may not be an “on the books” crime to keep better tabs on your kids, it’s a crime against responsibility that Eric Harris’ parents allowed an arsenal to be built under their roof undetected. Why should they have trusted him, as he gave them no reason to through past actions? While Harris and KLIEBOLD are ultimately responsible for their crime, their parents are responsible for not doing anything to stop it. Harris and Klebold are not the poster children for the victims of bullying. They are the poster children for cowardice and, yes, they are scumbags. I’m sorry if you’re being bullied, but if you want to show your tormentors something, show them that you’re better than them by doing better than them. Trust me when I say that living well is the best revenge. If you can’t handle that, then seek psychological help.

    “Jerika”…couldn’t your parents decide between either Jennifer or Erika, so they named you Jerika…strikes again. This time on my entry about the kids that were suspended for having photos of Harris and Klebold

    What the fuck is wrong with having pictures of your heros…well i dunno if they were the heros of those girls but theyre mine. i have many pictures and journal entries saved on my school computer, thats where i am now by the way, and i havent heard anything about it yet when the admin can easily look up in my files. GOD! this just shows how pathetic our govt and school systems really are. they just need to chill the fuck out!!!

    Comment by Jerika — Thursday Jun 10, 2004 @ 9:16 am

    There’s nothing wrong with it unless your heroes are mass murderers. I guess I need to send another e-mail to your school system, considering you basically just confessed to your psychopathic crap. They don’t need to chill out, they need to put you in a room with padded walls.

  • Students suspended over Columbine killer photos

    Students suspended over Columbine killer photos

    Students Suspended Over Columbine Killers’ Photo:

    Three girls were suspended for the remainder of the school year for having pictures of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. Also, in true mutant fashion…

    According to the investigation, the girls were questioned about the pictures and one of the girls reportedly told a school counselor that it would be “cool” to be involved in an incident like the Columbine High School massacre in which 13 people died and 21 other people were wounded.

    Glad to see the school is actually doing something to control the mutant population. And do I really need to say it? You know, the whole parents thing and what are they doing to discourage this kind of behavior. Listen, you little mutants, you probably fucked not only your education but probably the rest of your lives just for your hero-worship of two cowardly killers. How “cool” is it now? Now go make my fries.

  • Follow-Up Monday

    Follow-Up Monday

    Now, following up on the reaction to the Klebold interview

    Columbine parents outraged:
    As expected, more parents of Columbine victims are outraged over the comments by Dylan Klebold’s parents.

    From Don Fleming, whose daughter Kelly was killed…

    “The Klebolds are totally disgusting,” Fleming said Sunday. “They’re saying ‘We really regret missing the warning signs, but we did nothing wrong.’ That’s a contradiction.”

    “They don’t think they’re responsible for anyone,” he said.

    “For as highly educated as they are, they thought this couldn’t happen to their son. They’re elitists. They thought this was something white trash would carry out.”

    From Phyllis and Al Velasquez, whose son Kyle was killed…

    “I vented to Al as I read the whole thing,” Phyllis Velasquez said. “I can’t say a whole lot nice about the Klebolds, and it’s not just the (New York Times) article. It’s the depositions. The Klebolds are clueless.”

    The Velasquezes also took exception to Susan Klebold’s comment about a “toxic culture” at Columbine that included jock worship and the tolerance of bullying.

    “I’m tired of that excuse,” Phyllis Velasquez said.

    She pointed out that her son had learning disabilities, was overweight and was bullied, but didn’t kill his classmates in retaliation.

    And lastly, which I think sums it all up concisely from Don Fleming again…

    “To face this bravely and honorably, they would go out and talk about what was wrong with their son. They won’t do that. They’re cowards.”

    Like parents like son. Cowards.

  • No Apologies

    No Apologies

    A few weeks ago, a columnist named David Brooks for the New York Times wrote this column which is basically just him agreeing with this column by Dave Cullen.

    Mr. Brooks then started receiving E-mails from Tom Klebold, Dylan Klebold’s father, which led to this piece in Saturday’s New York Times.

    In it, the Klebolds refuse to apologize for what happened. Susan Klebold even goes as far to say, “I haven’t done anything for which I need forgiveness.” They also describe the day of the shootings as “a natural disaster” and the Klebold’s discuss the day as a suicide and not as a day when 13 random people were killed. Two quotes from the NY Times article jumped out at me…

    They believe that what they call the “toxic culture” of the school — the worship of jocks and the tolerance of bullying — is the primary force that set Dylan off. But they confess that in the main, they have no explanation.

    Yet, they didn’t kill any jocks, and I have yet to hear of the names of any jocks who allegedly bullied them. And then there was this…

    “I’m a quantitative person,” said Tom, a former geophysicist. “We’re not qualified to sort this out.” They long for some authoritative study that will provide an answer. “People need to understand,” Tom said, “this could have happened to them.”

    So it sounds like to me that they’re willing to let other people raise their child. People like Eric Harris. The impression I get is that the Klebolds are very self-absorbed. They must be to have missed obvious warning signs, which they regrettably admit…

    “He was hopeless. We didn’t realize it until after the end,” Tom said. Susan added: “I think he suffered horribly before he died. For not seeing that, I will never forgive myself.”

    Suffered horribly? At least he knew that he was going to die that day. 13 other people weren’t afforded such a luxury.

    As expected, parents of the true victims are not happy

    “I’m horrified,” Dawn Anna, whose daughter Lauren Townsend was killed at Columbine, told The Associated Press. “I wanted an apology. I wanted a contribution to help us understand why it happened, so that it would never happen again. I didn’t hear it.”

    Brian Rohrbough, father of victim Daniel Rohrbough, said he was outraged that the Klebolds likened the day of the shootings to a natural disaster in the interview with Brooks.

    The best quote to sum this all up also comes from Brian Rohrbough who said…

    “This was murder,” he said. “In my opinion, what went on in their home led to Columbine.”

    Now if only the Klebold’s would pull their heads out of the sand and realize that.

  • 5/09/04: From the Mail Sack

    5/09/04: From the Mail Sack

    It’s Sunday, so you know what that means. It’s time to bring on the love from my adoring public. Only two this week. One is pretty much a repeat, and the second is just oh so good.

    First, the repeat from my entry about the Columbine Death Photos

    you guys need to shut the fuck up. You know NOTHING about eric or dylan. Eric was a close friend of mine. Rest In Peace Brothers.

    -Mik

    Comment by Mik — Sunday May 9, 2004 @ 1:24 pm

    Again I say if Harris and Klebold had as many friends in life as people who claim to have known them, then they would have been the most popular guys in Colorado.

    How pathetic is your life that you have to make up stories about being the friend of a psychopath and a coward? The e-mail address the poster left was zyklon_brotherhood@xxxxxx.com. For those of you that may not know, Zyklon gas was the gas the Nazis used to exterminate the Jews. So now you know the mentality of these Harris and Klebold supporters. Racists and Anti-Semites.

    Now for the coup de grâce. This one came in through my mail form and is from one of my trolls by the name of Joey. He’s banned from leaving comments on the site, so he’s resorted to sending me mail. I’ll warn you the language is a little strong.

    Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by

    joey on Wednesday, May 5, 2004 at 00:47:21

    body: whats up cunt! fuck you and your whole organization!fuck you and everything you stand for,fuck you and your dead cunt grandmother,fuck you and your outlook on life,fuck you and your whole website fuckhead.fuck you ,you cunt.

    IF I EVER FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE TRENCH I WILL “GUT YOU LIKE FUCKING SWINE AND USE YOUR INTESTINES TO MAKE MY SAUSAUGE”I WILL “TEARE OFF YOUR SKIN LIKE WRAPING PAPER AND DECK THE HALLS WITH YOUR ORGANES” fuck you!

    Typical Harris and Klebold tactic. Sending cowardly threats through anonymous channels. Guess what, Joey, you’re not so anonymous. You see, every time you post a comment or send me an e-mail, it records your IP address.

    If I thought you were an actual threat, I’d have the authorities knocking on your door right now. Then how would you explain that to mommy and daddy? Then you might get kicked out of the basement. But more likely in your case, you’d be grounded, and your parents would take your bicycle and clubhouse away.