Category: School Violence

  • Yeah…that’s the ticket

    Yeah…that’s the ticket

    Those who knew gunman return to classes:

    Not only was Cho Seung-Hui an anti-social, selfish, cowardly, loser, he was also delusional, or a pathological liar.

    Koch remembers taking Cho out to some parties at the start of the fall semester in 2005. He introduced Cho to friends, but the sullen roommate didn’t say much. At one party, Cho did get tipsy enough that he opened up and began talking about his virtual love life.

    He said he had an imaginary girlfriend named Jelly, and that she was “a supermodel that lived in space.” Jelly had a nickname for Cho — Spanky.

    Once, Koch knocked on Cho’s door looking for his roommate, John. The door was locked, and Seung wouldn’t open it up.

    “I’m in here with my girlfriend and we’re making out,” he said.

    “Who says that kind of stuff?” the junior from Richmond asked.

    A couple months later during Thanksgiving break, Koch’s phone rang. It was Cho.

    “I didn’t know why he called, and I was like ‘What’s up.’ He goes, ‘I’m vacationing with Vladimir Putin. I was like, ‘Really? I think he lives in Russia.’ He’s like, ‘Yeah, we’re in North Carolina.’ I’m like, ‘I’m pretty sure that’s not possible Seung.”‘

    I think we all know a guy like this. Someone who tries too hard and ends up pushing people further away from him.

    Cho didn’t hate the so-called rich kids. He wanted to be one so bad it hurt. And when they didn’t accept him, his stalker mentality kicked in. If they won’t be friends with me, they won’t be friends with anyone.

    Not everyone has to accept you as a friend. That’s the way the real world works.

  • Cho: The Unoriginal Loser

    Cho: The Unoriginal Loser

    SICK HOMAGES FROM A STUDENT OF PSYCHOS:

    I love the New York Post when it comes to crime coverage. They pull no punches. This article is about how Cho Seung-Hui didn’t have an original idea in his head.

    Virginia Tech killer Cho Seung-Hui plagiarized other school-shooting psychos in a twisted show of one-upmanship.

    He used the Internet to research and learn from infamous school killers, including Columbine HS’s Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, Duane Morrison of Bailey, Colo., and Kimveer Gill of Montreal, experts said.

    In photos he sent to NBC News, Cho is seen wearing a black baseball cap backward, just as Harris wore in published images.

    In others, Cho strikes poses disturbingly similar to those of Gill – who posted photos of himself online before his rampage last September at Montreal’s Dawson College that killed one student and injured a dozen.

    The only thing he outdid his scumbag heroes on was his level of cowardice.

  • Dave Cullen on Cho

    Dave Cullen on Cho

    Was Cho Seung-Hui really like the Columbine killers?:

    Dave Cullen, who wrote the definitive article about Columbine, is back. This time he’s writing about the Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui and analyzing the comparison between Cho and the Columbine killers. The article does not disappoint.

    I’m not even going to post any quotes from the article because it’s way too good for that. The article must be read in its entirety.

  • Columbine parents call for release of evidence

    Columbine parents call for release of evidence

    Columbine Parents Call For Release Of Reports:

    Yesterday at a news conference at 11:20 AM, the exact 8th anniversary of Columbine, Brian Rohrbough called once again for the release of all the evidence pertaining to Columbine. Most notable, the basement tapes and the sealed depositions.

    “How much more blood must be spilled?” Rohrbough asked

    Rohrbough said if he can raise the money, he’ll appeal a decision by U.S. District Judge Lewis Babcock to seal depositions given by the parents of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold for 20 years.

    If he sets up a fund for donations, I’ll be more than happy to contribute.

  • Touchy

    Touchy

    Psychologist: Klang May Have Made Things Worse:

    A principal hailed as a hero for rushing a student gunman and disarming him despite being fatally wounded may have sealed his own fate by touching the boy, a psychologist testified Thursday.

    Eric Hainstock can’t control his emotional reactions to even the smallest slight and can’t think rationally when he’s attacked, juvenile psychologist Michael Caldwell said. The volatile 16-year-old has shown a pattern of growing more agitated when people touch him, Caldwell said.

    And people want him to back out on the streets by the time he’s 25? That’s laughable. Hainstock is violent and unstable, and I doubt very much that he’s capable of rehabilitation.

  • The Mutant Report

    The Mutant Report

    To some online, gunman is a hero, martyr:

    We have an article here from the Detroit Press about people who idolize school shooters. Apparently, it was written by Captain Where The Hell Have You Been For The Past 8 Years.

    In the videotapes Cho Seung-Hui sent to NBC in the midst of the Virginia Tech massacre, he spoke of his children, brothers and sisters and compared himself to Jesus.

    Many may shrug off such rantings as those of a deranged killer.

    But not everyone.

    “Cho Seung-hui, we fringed ones salute you,” reads one Web site that praises the bloodshed just days after the country recoiled at the deadliest shooting spree in U.S. history.

    Rowell Huesmann, a professor of psychology and communication studies at the University of Michigan, called such sentiments “disgusting.”

    But, he added, there’s a reason for them.

    “There are disaffected people who are alienated, for one reason or another, from society who wouldn’t do anything physically violent,” he said. “But writing these gives them a chance to be aggressive to society in a way that’s fairly non-risky.”

    He says non-risky, I say cowardly. Get back to me when one of you mutants has the balls to say this to a family member of one of the victims. Then again, that would require you to leave your mom’s basement.

    If Cho wanted notoriety as a martyr for the disenfranchised, history indicates he’ll get it.

    That’s what happened with Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, students at Columbine High School in Colorado who shot to death 12 classmates and a teacher before turning their guns on themselves eight years ago today.

    And locally, it happened with Andrew Osantowski of Clinton Township in 2004. The then-17-year-old was accused of stockpiling an arsenal to gun down classmates and blow up his school, Chippewa Valley High in Clinton Township. His plan was thwarted after he shared it in an Internet chat with a teen in Washington state, who told her father. He, in turn, called Clinton Township police.

    Online, Osantowski was praised.

    “I, for one, salute Mr. Osantowski,” a Web site posting read at the time. Osantowski, who was convicted of threatening an act of terrorism and using a computer to threaten terrorism, was sentenced to 4 1/2 to 22 years in prison.

    I wonder which site that was. Oh, yeah. It was this one. What the article fails to mention is that the person who made that comment has since recanted his opinion of Andrew Osantowski.

    But hey, if it opens the eyes of some parents who have at-risk kids, hopefully it will avoid another Columbine or Virginia Tech.

  • Victim’s family wants story to be heard

    Victim’s family wants story to be heard

    Virginia Tech victim’s loved ones fight to tell his story:

    The friends and family of Virginia Tech student and victim of the tragedy Jeremy Herbstritt want his story to be heard. So copyright laws be damned, I’m posting the whole article to help his story be known.

    (CNN) — Schoolmates and relatives painted a portrait of Virginia Tech victim Jeremy Herbstritt as a friendly, talkative and passionate man, in stark contrast to his killer Cho Seung-Hui, the deeply troubled and quiet loner.

    Their very different lives collided Monday when Cho targeted a classroom building where Jeremy and so many others were following their dreams. Cho shot and killed Herbstritt, police said, along with at least 29 others before taking his own life.

    Images of the armed Cho, wearing black gloves and dressed in a khaki vest have been burned on the public consciousness, as has his screed of hateful words targeting the wealthy and privileged. (Watch Jeremy’s parents and a friend remember how “he had a good heart” Video)

    Jeremy’s loved ones are fighting to replace those images with thoughts of their son and other victims of the massacre, by publicly celebrating his legacy.

    “The rest of our life is going to be to celebrate his life, to say what he did good,” said Jeremy’s father, Mike, while fighting back tears. “Jeremy was a good boy, a good man, and we’re going to love him forever.” (Read a brief profile of Jeremy)

    Cho’s hateful video message he sent to NBC on the day of the killing targeted people who had “everything” they wanted.

    Jeremy’s schoolmates offered a very different message of hope from their fallen colleague.

    “That message is, ‘be passionate, and be passionate about something,’” said Ken Stanton, a friend who lived in the same building as Jeremy. “We may have lost him, but I’ll tell you what, his spirit is certainly with us.”

    Another schoolmate, Gaurav Bansal, said Jeremy “always had uplifting things to say.”

    They both appeared disgusted by Cho’s video they’d seen plastered across the news media. (Watch disturbing video of the gunman talking about his motives Video)

    “It’s a really sensitive topic, and I’d really rather not get into it,” said Stanton. “We want to talk about Jeremy.” (Read more about how some have been disgusted by Cho’s video)

    Friends said the 27-year-old civil engineering graduate student never had a bad thing to say about anyone.

    But he did have many words to say. Friends and parents described him as talkative. “Jeremy had a lot of energy,” said his mother Peggy Herbstritt.

    “From the time he was born and even through graduate school, I don’t think he slept more than a couple of hours a day. He loved life.”

    His father said Jeremy was a hiker and a biker and ran in marathons. He worked as a teaching assistant while pursuing his interest in helping the environment.

    Students looked forward to class when they knew Jeremy would be there to teach, his father said.

    Jeremy also worked in a program to search for mosquitoes carrying the dangerous West Nile Virus.

    “If anybody ever asked Jeremy for some help,” said his father, “Jeremy was there to help them.”

    So much potential good in the world was prematurely snuffed out by the ultimate cowardly act.

  • More from Hainstock hearing

    More from Hainstock hearing

    Pal: Teen who shot principal was abused:

    The sob stories about Eric Hainstock continue…

    Officials did nothing to stop students from teasing Eric Hainstock despite complaints, a friend testified Wednesday at a hearing to determine whether adult charges should stand in the shooting death of the teenagers’ school principal.

    Other kids called Hainstock names and pushed and punched him for being messy and smelling bad, said Morgan Gudenschwager, a 15-year-old eighth-grader who described himself as Hainstock’s best friend. Hainstock, who could be sentenced to life in prison if convicted on adult charges, told Gudenschwager his parents wouldn’t let him shower at home.

    And here’s some gratitude for you…

    But under cross-examination, Gudenschwager said Hainstock talked “once in a while” about how he hated Klang, even though Klang bought him clothes and let him shower at school so he wouldn’t smell. He also said Hainstock often instigated confrontations with other students and dished out his share of bullying.

    And what did John Klang get for his charity? A bullet that cost him his life.

    Hainstock is an obvious danger and should never see the light of day. Hell, prison would probably be like a vacation for him. At least he’ll get meals and showers.

  • Jack Thompson takes on Bill Gates

    Jack Thompson takes on Bill Gates

    According to Counter-Strike Nation, the Washington Post had the following paragraph in this article but subsequently retracted it about the Virginia Tech shooter…

    Several Korean youths who knew Cho Seung Hui from his high school days said he was a fan of violent video games, particularly Counterstrike[sic], a hugely popular online game, in which players join terrorism or counterterrorism[sic] groups and try to shoot each other using all types of guns.

    Now, since a video game site found this before the Post pulled it, you know the evil one has seen this. Lo and behold, he’s sent a letter to Bill Gates, head cheese of Microsoft, who doesn’t even make Counter-Strike…

    April 18, 2007

    Bill Gates

    Microsoft

    1 Microsoft Way
    Redmond, WA 98052 Via Fax and e-mail

    Dear Mr. Gates:

    On Monday, April 16, at 3:10 pm, I was a guest, as I often have been in the past, on the Fox News Channel. News anchor Bill Hemmer asked me to profile the Virginia Tech rampage killer. I did so, noting that until that day the worst school massacre in world history was at the hands of Robert Steinhaeuser, who literally trained on the Microsoft on-line, hyper-violent shooter game, Counterstrike. I mentioned your company’s game by name. I explained that the rehearsal for such a massacre is key to being able to pull it off, as efficiently as Cho, whose name we didn’t even know at the time. Cho and Steinhaeuser were able to do what they did the first time because it was not the first time. This is why the military uses this same virtual reality simulation to train soldiers to want to kill and how to kill calmly, as the witnesses of Cho said he did.

    Sure enough, last night I was doing a west coast radio interview when the host said to me, “Mr. Thompson, you are right. The Washington Post is reporting right now the following:

    ‘Several Korean youths who knew Cho Seung Hui from his high school days said he was a fan of violent video games, particularly Counterstrike, a hugely popular online game published by Microsoft, in which players join terrorism or counterterrorism groups and try to shoot each other using all types of guns.’

    I thus went back on the Fox News Channel, and Bill Hemmer and I explained not only that I was right about your game figuring in the Virginia Tech massacre but also that the Washington Post excised the above excerpt from the story this morning. That is yet another story. The bad news for the Post however is that you can still get the excised excerpt at http://www.washingtonpost.com/…AR2007041700563_3.html?hpid=topnews. Thus, the cat is out of the bag, and his paw prints are still on the bag. Is this a great Internet, or what?

    As you know, I similalry [sic] went on NBC’s Today Show with the DC Beltway Sniper still unidentified and at-large a few years ago and told Matt Lauer and the nation that the triggerman would most likely be a teen video gamer trained on a sniper video game. The tarot card was a clue, but there were other clues. I was right, as Malvo trained on your Microsoft game, Halo. NBC reported that three months later, and it was part of the criminal trial of Malvo.

    Mr. Gates, your company is potentially legally liable the harm done at Virginia Tech. Your game, a killing simulator, according to the news that used to be in the Post, trained him to enjoy killing and how to kill. You knew five years ago that your on-line game, Counterstrike, so clearly figured in the massacre by a student in Erfurt that the event and the game impacted the race for Chancellor in Germany at the time!

    Yet, here you are, five years after “Erfurt,” still marketing Counterstrike. having done nothing to disable the server(s) for this mass murder simulator, and it looks like “Virginia Tech” is a consequence. There’s more going on in the world than Vista. Just ask the bereaved Virginia Tech families.

    Mr. Gates, pull the plug on Counterstrike today, or do we need more dead to convince you? “Virginia Tech” was the 9-11 of school shootings, and it appears Microsoft is in the middle of it, in more ways than one.

    Regards, Jack Thompson

    Wow, he changed it up this time. He used a killing simulator instead of a murder simulator. But as usual, Mr. Thompson is off his rocker. I’m not going to go into the thousand ways that he’s wrong. I would hope that our readers are smart enough to figure that out for themselves. I just wanted to display this to show why I consider Jack Thompson the reigning King of All Assclowns.

  • Could Columbine records have prevented Va. Tech?

    Could Columbine records have prevented Va. Tech?

    Truth about Columbine may have helped prevent Va. rampage, Rohrbough says:

    If you’ve been following Columbine as long as I have, you’re familiar with the name Brian Rohrbough. He lost his son Daniel at Columbine. He’s been very outspoken about how he thinks the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Department handled Columbine. Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes I don’t. This time I agree with him 100%.

    The father of one of the victims of the Columbine tragedy said he isn’t surprised that the Virginia Tech gunman refers to the shooters responsible for his son’s death as “martyrs.”

    “Because Jefferson County lied so much about what happened in Columbine, they raised the interest in these guys,” Brian Rohrbough said Wednesday. He lost his son Daniel Rohrbough at Columbine. “When (officials) refused to release the basement videos, they created a cult following for these two guys.”

    Rohrbough has long sought the release of videos – the so-called basement tapes – and other documents created by Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris long before they went on their rampage at Columbine.

    “If the videos were released, then parents, schools, law enforcement and counselors would have a benchmark to look for potential murderers, and the odds of stopping this before it happens would increase dramatically,” Rohrbough said.

    “The basement tapes and the documents give a very clear picture on how to identify these guys. There is so much information that would help identify these serious threats.”

    He said that until the truth about Columbine is told, school shootings will continue to occur.

    “When you withhold the truth and you create mystery, imaginations and conspiracy theories run wild,” he said.

    Are you paying attention, Judge Babcock?