Man Accused Of Raping Teen Met On MySpace:
23-year-old Nate Rinken of Sioux Falls, South Dakota is accused of raping a 15-year-old girl that he met on MySpace.
According to court papers, the 15-year-old victim says in the months after meeting Rinken online, she met up with him in person three or four times. The last meeting, in May, began with Rinken picking her up from work and taking her back to his house .
While talking in his bedroom, she says Rinken starting kissing her. She pulled away and told him to stop. She says he pulled her clothes off and began to rape her as she shook her head and said “no.”
According to police Rinken admits having sex with the girl. Age of consent in SD is 16.
Now I know we’re going to hear the usual excuses. “What kind of girl is she?” “Where were her parents?” etc. To you, I say this. If a 23-year-old guy wants to stay out of trouble he shouldn’t meet with a 15-year-old he met online.
Thanks to Gage for the tip.
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41 responses to “SD man accused of raping 15-year-old”
If a 23-year-old guy wants to stay out of trouble he shouldn&rsquot meeting with 15-year-old he met online. Thank you for saying what I was thinking. The kind of people who make those excuses do not have 15 year old daughters (if they do then someone call DHS right now), or any common sense.
The kind of people who make your kind of statements don’t understand how most men under 25 think:
sex > [insert negative consequence here]
It doesn’t make it right, but let’s understand that when it comes to sex, 23 year old guys aren’t all that great at making decisions either.
So, it does fall to the parents of the 15 year old to make sure their daughter doesn’t have sex, because I’m sure as hell not leaving that task up to the 15 year old, or the 23 year old.
Personal responsibility be damned?
Maybe all men under the age of 25 should be locked up then, just because they may commit a sex crime.
And, obviously, what they say is true, that men think with the head between their legs.
I’ve been guilty of thinking with the wrong head in my time but never to the point where it broke the law. It’s not that difficult to not have sex with a 15-year-old.
Certainly not saying personal responsibility be damned.
The 23 year old should and will be punished…all I’m saying is that if I’m a parent, I’m not leaving it up to the random sampling of 23 year old men on the Internet to make sure my daughter isn’t having sex with them. As far as I’m concerned, that’s MY responsibility first and foremost. The 23 year old has a responsibility to keep himself out of trouble, not to keep my kid out of it.
Regarding “your day”, Trench, it was a different world. The Internet makes interaction between young teens and young men fare more possible today. In your day, if you were 23 and were seen anywhere near jail bait, your friends would give you tons of crap for it and you’d stay away. With the Internet, it is perfectly possible for those social interactions to take place. There is no one to judge or criticize the relationship. That can often be a bad thing. Social stigma is a powerful (and positive) force for keeping people in line. usually even better than law enforcement. This is one aspect of “real” society that social networking sites aren’t all that great at replicating…unfortunately
Wow, what an awesome generalization. I have several guy friends who are in their early twenties, I also have a friend from work who is seventeen. She’s hung out with me and my guy friendsd before and they ask “How old are you?” and she says “Seventeen” and they go “Oooh… too young!” And they DO NOT sleep with her or find themselves unable to resist her “temptations”
Not saying that you’re tooting the “guys are just too horny and can’t be responsible if the girl hits on them” horn, David. But I am tired of hearing it from other people. It’s entirely possible for these people to keep their dicks in their pants when it comes to teenagers.
I was 23 once. I didn’t have sex with any 15 year olds. As a matter of fact I’ve NEVER had sex with a 15 year old, even when I was 15.
“She&rsquos hung out with me and my guy friendsd before and they ask &ldquoHow old are you?&rdquo and she says &ldquoSeventeen&rdquo and they go &ldquoOooh&hellip too young!&rdquo And they DO NOT sleep with her or find themselves unable to resist her &ldquotemptations&rdquo ”
Again…REAL LIFE social situation. Of course they said that. That’s exactly what they’re supposed to say. They know that, and they know that YOU know that. So they conform to the social norm. The PROBLEM is when those kind of social controls are removed. Place like Myspace don’t have those kind of social controls.
It’s not that guys can’t keep it in their pants. Of course they can. When the risk out weighs the reward, its an obvious choice not to make a move on an underage girl. On myspace though, that perceived risk is much lower (for both parties by the way…most 15 year old girls would never seek to engage socially with ANY 23 year old boy except on a social networking site).
I’m not excusing anyone’s behavior, but I think its important to remember that human nature hasn’t changed. Either have social norms for the most part. The fact remains: if people believe their actions are free of consequences, they do what they want. For teenage girls, that means that most of them abstain from sex because they’re afraid of their parents finding out, or afraid of their friends calling them “whores”…for an adolescent girl, a far worse fate than pregnancy or STDs witch “Can’t happen to me” For guys, it’s the stigma of being labeled a pedophile by friends or prospective girlfriends that keeps them from staring too long at that 16 year old girl in the too-short-skirt at the mall. So when a sexually curious teen girl receives a solicitation from an older man on Myspace, she assess the risks a benefits of the encounter under the fairly accurate assumption that no one will find out about it. That means she doesn’t worry about what her friends will think. It also means it she doesn’t worry about the reaction by her parents. Given that assumption that “no one will find out” her only decision making criteria becomes “Do I want to do this with him?”
The same goes for the male in this equation. He’s met this girl. He trusts her. Maybe he even thinks he loves her. He hasn’t told his friends he’s talking to a 15 year old on myspace because he knows they’d make fun of him…a lot (and for good reason). Same goes for his parents. In fact, he knows society as a whole would disapprove if they knew. But they don’t know. “And if she’s into it, then what’s the problem?”, he thinks to himself.
In the much the same way that drugs and alcohol join to create the perception of “consequence free” environments for teens, so does myspace create the perception of a “consequence free” environment for 23 year old men and 15 year old girls.
And those people who think that just because meeting someone on myspace frees them from the consequences of social norms as you call them?
Are IDIOTS. Because obviously as this site points out, you CAN get caught. You CAN go to jail. You can be totally fucked by involving yourselves in it.
And the grand majority of 23 year old guys? Do NOT troll for for 15 year olds on myspace. Because they know better.
I thought I heard somewhere….that real character can be judged by what we do when we are alone.
Laurie this is true…real character also takes longer to develop in some than others. Some have it at 13, and others not till 25, and still more never have it. If all of us had real character we wouldn’t need police.
When I say they believe they are in a consequence free environment, I’m specifically talking in social terms. Most kids in that group don’t believe that ANYTHING as bad as arrest or STDs can happen to them anyway. Most have that “invincibility of youth” disease. The most powerful stigmas that keep them from sex with normally off-limit partners are social in nature. THOSE are the things that become much less potent on a social networking site verses a real life encounter.
…and how’s this to blow your mind…For every guy like this one who gets caught, how many do you think are getting away with it? I’m not saying that it is the majority of any age group, but it is happening…this site is proof of that.
No, most kids in that age group KNOW bad things can happen to them. And that’s why most of them are NOT having sex with underage kids. It’s the dopes that log onto myspace and go ‘Wow, no one could ever catch me here!’ that go and do dumb shit. And a lot of those people? Would probably get into trouble anyway.
Look at the people that get caught and are shown on this site? A lot of a previous history of something that they shouldn’t be doing.
I know that social “norms” can be lifted or ignored or whatever on the internet, but it doesn’t absolve these guys of guilt. They know what they’re doing is wrong, they know it’s against the norm and that’s why they try to HIDE IT. So as far as I’m concerned social norms are still there in their minds. They know what they’re doing is wrong or else they wouldn’t be trying to hide it.
i personally know the 23 year old and have been to his court dates.. and well i cant talk about the case but theres a lot more to the story then what was given by keloland.
If a 23-year-old guy wants to stay out of trouble he shouldn&rsquot meeting with 15-year-old he met online. <–this.
Also, David, I do understand what you’re saying and I agree with it. Some people if you arent looking right at them will do some HORRIBLE stuff just because they can get away with it.
The problem however in your theory, is that this didnt ‘just happen online’. He took it offline. Which means that he took it somewhere that he COULD get caught and where society was -right- there. He had sex with this girl even when she said no, -knowing- that was wrong and knowing that society or not, it was something he could -not- explain away with “oh but she acts so much older” etc. She said no. It’s not even an issue of her age. She said no.
No twenty three year old man needs to be talking to fifteen year old girls or boys. No twenty three year old man needs to be entertaining children. It just doesnt need to be happening.
That’s the problem with the folk who say “Well these girls know what they want and they’re trying to trap these men” I dont even disagree with that. It may be the case. But when you know a fire is hot, you keep you rhand out of it, and then you dont go looking for OTHER fires to shove your hand back in. You keep your hand AWAY from the shiny flashy thing. Playing with kids is playing with fire. It’s THAT simple, and any male with brains, no matter WHAT his age, needs to keep that in mind.Yes, the law is harsh on pedophiles. YES it is. YES if you even are caught with a female that’s underage that stigma will be placed on you even if you didnt do anything. YES. YES some innocent men have been blamed by a kid for things they didnt do.
THAT IS ALL THE MORE REASON THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER HANG OUT WITH A -CHILD- if you are adult age!
ooohhh here come the family and friends to defend the 23 yr old rapist of an underage girl from myspace……
its her fault, her parents fault, blah blah blah.
5bucks says HE made FIRST contact with her and not the other way around..
then u owe me 5 bucks..and u only know what u have read or heard from keloland. nate would have never touched the girl if he had known her age.i also know that nate would never rape a person.he is not that type of person.
If had a nickel for every time I heard that…and if he admitted to having sex w/this girl, maybe you don’t know him as well as you think. Most sex offenders are able to convincingly maintain a facade of normalcy, besides.
He admits he had sex with her liz. She’s sixteen. Sixteen is the age of a minor. Having sex with a minor is rape. Therefore he IS capable of rape, and your defense is weak.
on the other hand, when i was 15 i looked and acted like a 20 year old, i matured alot faster then other girls. also when girls that are underaged are asked how old they are? depending on how the are socialized by their families, they could lie and say a safe legal age just to be cool and get that good looking popular guy to chat to them!!!! for girls its always better for their reputation in hight school to get a older guy!!!!
in this situation, i know what its like and i feel its mostly the girls fault!!! i dont blame rinken at all!!!because wen i was 15 an rinken was only 2 years older, he rejected me and told me i was too young and its dangerous for him to talk to me, he was only 17 then!!!! im 21 now and its very strange and highly unbelivable this was rinkens fault!!! i blame the girls parents she should tell her young daughter that she should stay well away from chat rooms. rinken is 23 his a adult so to question him going on to myspace to chat is rediculous, but to question why a 15 year old girl is chatting to older men, is askin for a accident to happen!!! and to rinken also, never ever meet people on line!!!!
makin the decision to have sex with a person 1s time is always a confusing time and u never know just exactly if you want it or not!! i dont blame nate for this as she was unsure, she shouldnt even have kissed him because it always leads to sex.
this guy is innocent, every1 stop being so naive and think in 2 perspectives!!! its only fair
Umm…in regards to the above comment…
i dont blame nate for this as she was unsure, she shouldnt even have kissed him because it always leads to sex.
If she said no he should not have had sex with her. Period. If there is any uncertainty, it’s best to just not do it. I don’t know who you have been having sex with but when I tell a guy no, he STOPS. And he knows that if I kiss him, it doesn’t mean I have to have sex with him. No is no and rape is rape.
Umm&hellip. WOW! I can’t believe there is a Blog about my brother. I can’t believe these comments and how grossly misinformed most of you are. For some reason I feel impelled to defend my brother even against my better judgment of starting haters to hate more on this Blog. But my God Nate hasn&rsquot even been found guilty and he already has the title of rapist/monster. Yes, he admitted having sex with this girl but under the false pretense of her age. Please save the &ldquoIf I had a nickel for every time I heard that.&rdquo In fact I probably shouldn&rsquot even care what people think .This whole situation makes me sick I can&rsquot even defend my brother w/o talking about the case in which I cant do.
This is why you ask for id when you get with a girl. Yes you do. This is also why you dont meet random girls on myspace for a fuck.
And the problem is, brother of nate, that no matter what he knew or didnt know, what he did -was- statutory rape. It doesnt matter if he knew or didnt. That’s the problem. That’s why I said what i said above. You dont meet random girls on myspace for a fuck. YOu dont fuck anyone without seeing ID first. And before you ask, yes, i actually have got a lot at every lover’s id once i hit the age of 18. Saved me trouble. It’s saved my male friends trouble too. Fancy that, thinking with your head instead of your dick.
I’m Nates sister not brother. I understand that regardless if he knew her age or not that he is found guilty of statutory rape. I don’t think I said otherwise. I believe I stated that he was just mislead by her age. I disagree with the forcible rape charge. I also disagree with the I.D. idea. Yeah, good idea but who the hell does that. I guess what I’m saying is the first time you meet someone you don’t think that they are lying to you. At least I don’t. But you&rsquore right it would have saved him a lot of trouble. I’m sure Nate will learn from this horrible experience. I’m sure Nate won’t even want to have sex with anyone till there has a been a background check,DNA and credit report done:( (Sarcastically to Garda)…I truly don’t know why I replied back b/c this just an argument to most of you.
Sorry about that. I assumed brother for some reason. And honestly I’m not trying to sound mean. And -I- do that, and my male friends do it too. It just makes sense especially since so many kids these days are trying to act grown. Then again I dont go out with strangers I met online either…
Maybe the forced rape charge is wrong. I wasnt there so I can’t say and unfortunately the jury will probably believe the girl over him even if it isnt true. But that’s why what I said is a good idea. Always ask for ID first. Hell you can do it in a coy way if you want, but do it. I dont see why you’re getting sarcastic with me especially since if he had taken some precautions he wouldnt be in this mess. He doesnt have anyone to blame but himself.
srink, do u remember me, im from england, we spoke once on the phone about seven years ago?when me and nate used to be very good friends.
ima lawyer now, in regards to nate’s case am sure from the botom of my heart that there was some misleading infomation when the girl had expressed her age! im genuinly upset about this as i know nate would never force somebody to have sex with him! as a female woman i know that if i was unsure to hav sex with some1 and i was already kissing the person i know it would lead in to some sexual activity!!!! would stupid person doesnt know that!? and as for garda!!!! how old are you fuking 80 years old???? hu the hell does that?this aint no club or a bar for god sake, its 2 people deciding weather theybare going to have sex!!! nate is not some1 that would just go and have sex with a random person, thats why he met her a few times to get to know her and from then she must have shown some sort of sexual interest towards him and thats y he went ahead, its not rape!!!!would you call it rape if she was 18?but with the exact situation? no u wouldnt!!!!!!!!!! u people are so unbelivably rediculous and narrow minded! im 2 years younger then nate and he turned me down even tho we were fallin for eachother!
as a lawyer its my job to look at both sides of the story and its clear that, yes, the girl may be disturbed due to probably being her first time and having no idea wot the hell is going on, but she is at a adolecence age of her life and lieing and accusing and making drama is nothing alien!!! everybody goes thru it at 15!!!!!!poor nate just got with the most hormonal! i dont mean to offend and be biased, thats not my intention!but all it is, is open your eyes and look at the bigger picture. the jury will decide, so for now all you sad people looking for drama, stop labelling and judging when you dont know her, him or the situation!
srink, tell nate, afreen is on his side!
and as for your coment S!!!
dont bother questioning who the hell i have had sex with!!!! how the hell do you know for certain that the girl said no, how easy is it to lie and say that you said no during sex!? especially if your 15! like i sed at 15 teenagers like to test the water and see howfar they get!!!!wether its to piss some1 off or just tease!
yes, rape is rape! but most people are very unsure weather to have sex or not first time with a new person!!!! open your eyes and look at the bigger picture!!!!
af, no offense meant but if you’re a lawyer you need to work on your understanding of grammar and stop abusing the punctuation marks. That just looks you less learned. And I believe you meant she is an adolescent or at an age of adolescence not at a adolescence age of her life.
wow – they come out of the air.
I know they do, don’t they.
Af, You’re right. Getting involved with a teenager is bad news. Very much so. Which is why your dear sweet nate SHOULDNT have. And if she said no, I dont care how far into sex they already were, he should have STOPPED.
I am overly flattered each of you would care.I would like to start off with updates and misleading thoughts. The state of South Dakota has dropped 2nd degree forced rape charge as of mid October. The state did not have enough evidence to go to trial. The whole time they held on to that charge with a string. It showed in the Rape Kit that there was no force.Her body as well had no marks that would prove force. I had a room mate outside my room who did not hear a woman call/scream rape. There for the charge is no longer. But, It is true. I do still have a pending charge. 4th degree rape. I was held in jail on a 50k dollar bond.
nate!! your back! forget all these sad narrow minded people and just get on with your life!!! am so so glad your dating someone! thats great!
dont you think its funny how people can just judge someone from looking at one side of the coin! daft!!! i knew it wasnt your fault. you dont have to justify yourself to any1, they can all get lost and take there big stinkin noses outa ya business! and find some1 else to sniff about on!
lol srink and i defended your honor mate!!!
take care xx
ye go on, wot now MRS GARDA??? got suttin to say????
Double checking IDs. Uhh… how about just not hopping into bed with someone you don’t know well enough that you would NEED to check their ID? Personally by the time I get to the point where I’m ready to sleep with someone I know them well enough that I don’t need to go and do a freaking background check and look at IDs and ask for proof of age. But whatever man, I guess this is the age we’re living in.
shina, the 15 year old girl that you’ve been raving about, happens to be my best friend… i love her with all my heart and wish that you guys would stop blogging or talking about it… because she’s read this all… she’s heard all of the stories… if it was up to her she would’ve kept quiet but she called me crying… i forced her to tell me what happened and i got 3 friends to go over and convince her to talk… she finally got up the courage to talk to her mom… and she didn’t cry/ scream rape nate she’s told me the story through and i know the whole thing by heart… this girl has gone through more shit than any of you can believe… i can’t believe he only got 6 months… but this is coming from her “i’m sorry that this has happened to cause such a problem… i want him to know i forgive him for what has happened… thank you for those who blieve me and for those who don’t that’s fine…” -shina… she’s got a lot of pain so if you guys could please stop calling her the 15 year old girl and a whore or what have you that would be very helpful… what i can say is that she’s focused in more on her life rather than dwell on it but when she sees this stuff… it brings it all back… thank you… if anyone would like to talk to her or give her support you may email me
what the heck are you talking about my friend having sex with the 25 year old she was RAPED you idiotic people. how DARE you carry on about my friend you all have no right to discuss my friend in the way you have been because it is offensive and degrading not including the pain it has caused. i know the full story of what happened and you lot got it wrong so please stop discussing it.
Gee, Paul I think we should keep on discussing it! I got to read the IMs from Tashina and see the pictures that she sent Nate. I would have to say that those alone portrayed a very different girl than u and her friends portray of her. Not only that but Tashina lied about her age several times in those IMs. To go on saying I believe Nate was the victim of fraud. This girl pretended to a be a Bi 18 year old going to WHS among other things.
Nates wrong was believing Tashina and not questioning her intentions more. This girl was not raped by Nate b/c if she was I&rsquom pretty sure the other people in that house would have heard a girl screaming rape or see that something was up. And the rape kit that was done would have said other wise.
My theory that I do believe happened is that the girl was scared that 1. She might be pregnant 2. Might of got an STD and didn&rsquot know how she was going to tell her mother that she needed to be checked. So she said she was raped then all the blame would not be on her and so on. That&rsquos just from common sense and the things I have read .If I had it my way I would love to post those IM s and pictures so everyone could read them and come up with there own theory.
So sorry Paul to inform you that your friend Tashina is a liar and that you might believe her but I have read all the proof that I need to to conclude that Tashina&rsquos character is flawed in many ways.
I do know that all that Tashina has ruined for Nate by her lies that he will learn from this and turn it into something positive.
Nates very angry sister
i did not just mean to stop talking because of her but of course when she told me about this page i got furious obviously and of course id like to see your evidence because if what you said is the case then me and tina will be speaking
i would like for you to stop talking about this and opening our case like that to the public nate… its very inappropriate and that’s confidential information that i’d like kept from the public… thank you.
Ok, I’m closing this thread and removing the offending comments.