I am sorry but where is the evidence that each of the 6 boys raped the girls? One girl screamed, they ended up unconscious because they were too drunk, and I assume at least all of their sperm was found inside of the girls. I am assuming there is more evidence that they were all raped then that? If it went down like you said I agree with you, but if not where is the evidence.

You like to argue and be contrary ass just to see yourself in print I think.

Why is this asshat back anyway Trench?

Actually, I am agreeing with Trench mostly, I just like evidence, don't you?

Where is the evidence againest them? Before we hang them from the nearest tree, there better be more evidence than we've heard thus far.

Thank you. :Hands you a flame proof jacket: They really don't like the concept of evidence here, in their mind everyone is guilty and the police and the prosecution are infallible. Really is a nice flavor of Kool Aid that causes that I think.

He amuses me.

Because I'm sure the police are going to release all the evidence information to the press before the trial starts. Do you two even think before you speak?

You are ready to hang them with or without evidence. And yes the police have gone forward without evidence before, look at the huge amount of evidence in the Duke case, look at how that ended. As far as I can see, drunk boys have sex with drunk girls and because the girls lost conscinous first its rape.

The girls remember nothing, the boys probably remember nothing, no one saw anything, and the victims fainted which could easily cause bruising and cuts which as I understand it was the extent of the injuries. I am not even seeing the potiential for evidence.

Weak minds are generally easily amused.

Could you please explain to me where you see the potential for evidence when no one remembers a thing, there were no eye witnesses, and very few injuries?

what you consider a friend?

friend is the perosn who cares for you , is the one who loves you and will protect you from danger, ok you are drinking with a friend (absolutly no excuse to be drinking at this age 13-14)

but if you are a friend, would you go to far to commit a rape?

parents probably trusted them because they are FRIENDS,

The police arrested them because they have a lots of evidence, and remember sex without CONSENT its a RAPE,

this is a sad story, too many lives in jeopardy, and its a lesson for many kids that directly or indirectly are involved,

DON'T DRINK, DON'T DO DRUGS,

DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT WILL MAKE YOU REGRET FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVE

Where is this "a lots of evidence", I am not seeing it or even the potiential for it. And yes DAs have gone forward with cases before without it (see Duke Lacrosse case). Please explain this to me, I am really missing it.

If you want to know the evidences before they made it public you need to work at the police department , if your not; you have to wait until its make public

but that wasn't my point , my point was were is the FRIENDSHIP

Remember Justice has to be done on their lives and on their hearts,and please don't compare this case with others because its tottaly diffferent , don forget this kids were FRIENDS

Well then maybe you can tell me where the evidence would come from when the victims remember nothing, no witnesses, and nothing but minor injuries.

what planet do you live?

did you ever heard about finger prints and DNA?

Not to mention hospitals have these things called rape kits. It's not just DNA and fingerprints but also medical analysis which can prove rape.

Or rough sex with 5 straight guys, I am a guy but I imagine you do 5 guys in a row their could still be tearing down there even if it was normal sex especcially if your 13 and 14 and presumably virgins or close to it, not to mention it doesn't prove which boy was rough. It could easily have been consentual sex. Without eye witnesses you are going to have a really have much of a case on that kind of evidence alone. Likewise even with finger prints and DNA evidence it doesn't disprove consentual sex. I am just wanting to make sure this case will go somewhere before we ruin these kids lives.

ok, you are a guy, do you go to visit your friends with vodka and rape pills?, you are loosing the concept, the point is: That night 6 boys rape 2 girls all of them were FRIENDS

The lesson: think before you do stupid things because it can lead to tragic consecuences like this.

I haven't heard anything about any GHB being used, just vodka, and while I never did it some teens do get drunk together, that is nothing unusual.

considering many cases where the evidence turned out to be NOTHING yes I am thinking before I speak. Where people have been declared guilty in the press and were innocent, yes.

i know both will long & eddie oteagui. both really nice guys. eddie would NEVER do this. the girls claimed to be "drugged" but i dont believe it.

this why this case is complicated and hard to beleived for all of us , i have 3 daughters and is disturbing for my to think that their friends would do something like this to them

Yes, they my be good guys and their lives are in big jeopardy ,but they were there and they were arrested

i really hope the evidences are clear and the real truth comes out and justice is fair for all of them , its sad to thing that young lives will be waisted

1st of all the girls are dumb for getting drunk out of their minds, that's their fault. Nobody really knows what went down that night but i know eddie and i found it very difficult to believe he would do something like that an where's the evidence that any of them raped them?how do the police even know that if intercourse occurred it was without consent?

I will recommend you to read the sunday 02-03-08 sun sentinel newspaper

The police have a confession statement from your friends

That would be this article…

http://tinyurl.com/29l94u

Perriello and Carter admitted committing sex acts with one of the girls, according to police reports. Lafferty told detectives that one of the teenage girls was trying to have sex with him but he didn't want to without a condom. Lafferty told detectives he then saw Otaegui having sex with one of the victims and Long committing a sex act with one.

Okay so the boys turned on each other. Not suprising if they were interrigated for that long. And they admitting doing sexual acts with the girls, sexual acts does not equal rape, and if the girls can't remember if they consented or not and Lafferty has no clue and says the girl wanted to have sex… I still don't see the evidence.

Sorry i didn't know that was changes in the law,

since when is legal to have sex with a minor, DRUNK OR NOT?

Well i am best friends with JC and he has explained the story to me numerous times. The girls are known as the "sluts" in school. One of the girls was not a virgin before the incident. The police have confessions from some boys but it definently wasnt gang rape or even rape. The girls had the idea of getting the drinks and one of the so called victims was walking around saying "F*** me". The police arrested six boys with very little evidence. It was dumb of them to drink but that doesnt mean that the law or even these girls parents should ruin their lives.

So are you saying we should just chalk it up to boys being boys?

Doesn't matter what kind of girls they were , virgin or not virgin it was WRONG, nobody put a knife on their necks and told them to have sex

Am i correct?

So in your words Is correct to have sex with a minor (sluts or not?

for your own safe if a girl (minor) tells you f***me ;DONT DO IT ,

Most of the defendants were minors themselves. Yes it would be illegal for the one adult to have sex with the minor, but I think the others get off on having sex with their peers. If not the girls should be arrested for rape too, as they had sex with minors as well

Boys will be boys, no; teens will be teens, yes. If the girls consented you have no case whatsoever on all but the one adult involved, face it.

That's a good one Leaky. Let's charge the girls with rape for having unconscious sex.

I'm beginning to think Belch is right about you.

Ummm where does it ever say they were unconcious during the sex and not afterwards, I must have missed that part. Or is it just your own suspicousion that they did backed up by no evidence other then the fact that the girls did eventually pass out.

18 year old having sex with a 14 year old… in many states not illegal. 14 year old having sex with a 14 year old… totally legal (like was the case most often here) 16 year old having sex with a 14 year old… I believe in most states totally legal. Your only really chance at a statutory charge is with the 18 year old everywhere else nope.

why don't you try CIA or FBI you my find a good future there

i don't think any of you whom do not know the boys can say these things about them. do you have anything better to do with you life than to put your input in this situation that you probably have nothing to do with? stop critisizing them and saying it was a gang rape. the little 13 year old girl who got "raped" by them is stupid for drinking and not controlling herself. this is her fault. im sure she does have people teasing her and what not but thats what she gets for ruining the boys' lives. alex and eddie were both playing soccer and they both wanted to have a future with it. now the people in this world will judge them for the alleged acts that they were charged with. im glad that they all have a sense of humor about being stuck in a house almost all day minus going to school for a short period of time. this really upsets me about how no one in this world has a clue about how your judging them and saying these awful things like they got the girls drunk and they stuck a knife to their throats forceing them to have sex. ridiculous…

Yeah, I'm sure the boys didn't do anything to stop the victims from drinking. It's enablers like you that encourages teens to keep committing these crimes.

the boys can't control how those girls acted..it was THEIR choice to drink and to have sex with them and the boys just followed along like any guy would even without the alcohol.

So you're telling me the boys just offered the girls alcohol with the best of intentions?

ryan lafferty rides my bus he now goes to spanish river high school